Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:55 am

Starting up this kit and will built it for Andretti as I am a fan

Three bags of green sprues, one black and one grey, some chromes, a figure and the tire set

Typical (decent) Tamiya instructions, Cartograph decals and a PE set...not sure if that came with or if I got it aftermarket.

I don’t think I have built a Tamiya car kit since my teens....maybe 15 the latest. The layout looks exactly as I remeber when I did the gorgeous black JPS....love those cars. This will likely be pretty much out of box, for me, and the plan is to finish around StPatrick’s Day. Because GREEN!!!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:19 am

Looking forward to this one mate

OlaHansson · Post by **OlaHansson** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:30 pm

Another one I have in my stash

Looking forward to follow this!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Cheers guys

If I can get some alone time today I will have at her

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:55 pm

Sweet!!!

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:58 pm

Great subject and driver and some sweet PE, will build into a nice model and a cosworth in the back aswell.

exmoor · Post by **exmoor** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:18 pm

This is going to be great look forward to seeing the progress nice one Scott

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:43 am

Well this Cosworth block put up a pretty good fight today
The stretched sprue clear injectors were the death of me!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:00 pm

Wow that looks like alot of detail for that engine. So tweezers and an electron microscope was in order there!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 pm

DrSprue wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:00 pm Wow that looks like alot of detail for that engine. So tweezers and an electron microscope was in order there!

I fought some wire as injector leads, but stretching the clear sprue was the right trick for it. The diameter is pretty fine at this scale.
I want to get the transmission and rear clip done and take some better photos.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:32 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 pm
DrSprue wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:00 pm Wow that looks like alot of detail for that engine. So tweezers and an electron microscope was in order there!
I fought some wire as injector leads, but stretching the clear sprue was the right trick for it. The diameter is pretty fine at this scale.
I want to get the transmission and rear clip done and take some better photos.

Wow when you get the battery connected I will be surprised if it does not actually start!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:26 pm

DrSprue wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:32 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 pm
DrSprue wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:00 pm Wow that looks like alot of detail for that engine. So tweezers and an electron microscope was in order there!
I fought some wire as injector leads, but stretching the clear sprue was the right trick for it. The diameter is pretty fine at this scale.
I want to get the transmission and rear clip done and take some better photos.
Wow when you get the battery connected I will be surprised if it does not actually start!

But of course I have to scratch build the battery and leads
I think the Fujimi Enthusiast series have better details than the Tamiyas, sadly. We shall see as I move the build along.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:44 am

Some progress Friday night/ Saturday after a huge snowstorm and lots of shovelling

There are a large number of paint calls for parts. The brakes had 4 colours and PE
Lots of multi colour parts as well, so taping and spraying and cleaning and on and on....

I got the engine and drive train partially built up to this point

OlaHansson · Post by **OlaHansson** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:50 am

Looks great so far!!
Have to build mine some day...

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:08 am

Looking good mate liking the PE on the cam covers

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:57 pm

Love the metal look on that Scott!

RossiM1 · Post by **RossiM1** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:20 pm

That is looking very nice indeed Scott great detail on the motor.

demarcation · Post by **demarcation** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:10 am

The engine looks superb, great work Scott!!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:34 am

Looking good Scott, it's really quite amazing what you can do with these 1/20 scale cars

Post by **Tomcat64** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:08 pm

Absolutely stunning work with the super-detailing on that engine - looking forward to seeing what you do with the rest now

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:08 pm Absolutely stunning work with the super-detailing on that engine - looking forward to seeing what you do with the rest now

I get a week off for spring break in March, so hoping to make some progress then
There are so many different paint call outs on each part, it takes forever planning and spraying and respraying and touching up....
At the moment it is just baby steps forward
Also finding this hard to photograph for some reason

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:42 pm

Great work so far Scott 1 step at a time as long as your going forward that's all that matters.
He's a link to a modeller building a lotus 78 thought you might find it helpful.

http://www.scaleworks365.com/forums/top ... s-type-78/

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:43 pm

Tay99 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:42 pm Great work so far Scott 1 step at a time as long as your going forward that's all that matters.
He's a link to a modeller building a lotus 78 thought you might find it helpful.

http://www.scaleworks365.com/forums/top ... s-type-78/

Holy Shite, that is some unreal detail

Very helpful for me to figure out some of the plumbing and confirm engine anatomy
Thanks for the link
Have to dig through my box of goodies to find some better connectors and braided cables

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:21 pm

I thought you might like that

some people just seem to be on another level

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:48 pm

Tay99 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:21 pm I thought you might like that some people just seem to be on another level

That studio 27 detail set helps a lot as well
I get motivated by seeing work above and beyond the norm. It doesn't make me want to quit and slam my hands in a drawer...most times

Funny as it was exactly the detail I needed for what turns out to be the fuel filter plumbing. Tamiya makes it look like an alarm clock hanging out in space on the front of the engine.
I might add a few bolt ends and such to more visible areas as well now
Thanks again

exmoor · Post by **exmoor** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:14 pm

Your doing some great work there again Scott engine looking fantastic

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:35 pm

exmoor wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:14 pm Your doing some great work there again Scott engine looking fantastic

Thanks Paul
I am going to veer a smidgen off the norm on my painting scheme...the rear springs were just screaming at me to paint them clear green over silver.
Probably will do the same with the green body work

I am almost through painting all the rear clip bits now and just need some time for assembly and details..unfortunately a long work week for me

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:25 am

Had a good night of modelling and assembled all of the rear clip portions....engine, brakes and gearbox

I have more wiring and plumbing I want to do and a heat shield for under the exhaust.
Would love to stay up late and forge on, but it is another workday tomorrow so gotta hit the hay

Stash · Post by **bfrd** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:00 pm

I have been following your build directly from Flickr and I must say this is some amazing work. I am almost tempted to send you my MFH engine to see what you could do with it. almost

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:17 pm

Oh man, love the detail and the paint work on that engine Scott. This is looking really nice.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:00 pm

bfrd wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:00 pm I have been following your build directly from Flickr and I must say this is some amazing work. I am almost tempted to send you my MFH engine to see what you could do with it. almost

Oh you tease!!!
I would just lovingly fondle the box and then just send it right back, promise!!!

This is my favourite engine made yet, a white metal Bugatti in 1/20 scale...they were a simple but gorgeous engine
Working in all metal is fun and challenging all at once...very different than styrene

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:08 pm

DrSprue wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:17 pm Oh man, love the detail and the paint work on that engine Scott. This is looking really nice.

Thanks Tony
That is all the base paint and assembly, now the extra wiring and plumbing to do
I am having a hard time finding reference info and pics on what everything is and where it all goes
These were complicated machines!!!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:01 pm

These are my best research photos I can find of the real cars

Photos of MFH models are nice, but the braided plumbing is a bit out of scale

Any other resources guys??

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:17 pm

Oh that seems like a perfect template to model by as well Scott! Nice and close too with a somewhat stripped version.

RossiM1 · Post by **RossiM1** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:59 pm

Great work Scott have you looked at Pistonheads for reference they have loads of great reference material on there ususally.
Cheers
Gary

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:14 pm

RossiM1 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:59 pm Great work Scott have you looked at Pistonheads for reference they have loads of great reference material on there ususally.
Cheers
Gary

I googled it, it came up as a used car sales site???

gaz45 · Post by **gaz45** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 pm

Great work there on the engine mate

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:28 pm

gaz45 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 pm Great work there on the engine mate

Gaz
These things are more work than I remember as a kid

RossiM1 · Post by **RossiM1** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:38 pm

Sorry Scott not been on there for ages just checked it out it's totally different from what it was, try http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/278/ ... worth.html
Regards
Gary

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:00 pm

RossiM1 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:38 pm Sorry Scott not been on there for ages just checked it out it's totally different from what it was, try http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/278/ ... worth.html
Regards
Gary

Ha ha, I was just about to post that link in from FB...yes it is an awesome resource for a lot of different cars!
Put the main site here so I can find it again...on FB it will disappear
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:36 am

K guys, I need an anatomy lesson
What is the black pot here just in front of the exhaust and what are the lines off of it and where do they go???

I get there is a silver heat shield on the front of the pot and under the exhaust outlets.
Any help greatly appreciated

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:00 am

Hi Scott I've found these instruction from a model factory hiro
I think it's a oil tank and connects to a oil pump and return from the engine block,as race engine run with a dry sump
Check out the link

http://www.f1m.com/phpbb/download/file. ... &mode=view

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:10 pm

Tay99 wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:00 am Hi Scott I've found these instruction from a model factory hiro
I think it's a oil tank and connects to a oil pump and return from the engine block,as race engine run with a dry sump
Check out the link

http://www.f1m.com/phpbb/download/file. ... &mode=view

You sir are a good man, thank you

The link is private it seems, but I found the instructions on MFH site so will look through those
Thanks again, I should have thought of that

Damn, Hiroboy's stock of braided line is STILL out of stock...it has been that way for a while or I would have got some
Now they have great pre painted resin hose joints as well...was just painting up some uncoloured ones last night

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:56 pm

If you go on F1m and scroll down the forum there's a whole section on lotus 78/79 you might have to be a member to see the photos not sure.

try detail master for AN fitting braided hose or RB motion

http://www.rbmotion.com

http://www.detailmaster.com/mm5/merchan ... ittings-BL

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:58 pm

Tay99 wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:56 pm If you go on F1m and scroll down the forum there's a whole section on lotus 78/79 you might have to be a member to see the photos not sure.

try detail master for AN fitting braided hose or RB motion

http://www.rbmotion.com

http://www.detailmaster.com/mm5/merchan ... ittings-BL

You are holding my hand throughout his one mate

Prepare for an influx of braided cord orders!!!

Got my order in today. Have found a few links that show pics of the plumbing of this and the JPS car...my iMac is better than my iPad it seems

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:57 am

Glad I could help, if you can get hold of them the model factory hiro books are great for ref pics only thing is there in Japanese.

It might be useful to join F1m there's some very knowledgable people there who have a lot of ref material.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:01 pm

Tay99 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:57 am Glad I could help, if you can get hold of them the model factory hiro books are great for ref pics only thing is there in Japanese.

It might be useful to join F1m there's some very knowledgable people there who have a lot of ref material.

Been thinking of joining that.
I ordered a Hanes Owner Manual book for the Lotus 79 on Amazon last night
I spent most my evening reading the previews on the book, then got lost reading about the preview of the Ferrari 312's and the story of the drivers and then....had to go to bed for work in the morning!!
Thanks again for all your help

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:07 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:01 pm
Tay99 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:57 am Glad I could help, if you can get hold of them the model factory hiro books are great for ref pics only thing is there in Japanese.

It might be useful to join F1m there's some very knowledgable people there who have a lot of ref material.
Been thinking of joining that.
I ordered a Hanes Owner Manual book for the Lotus 79 on Amazon last night
I spent most my evening reading the previews on the book, then got lost reading about the preview of the Ferrari 312's and the story of the drivers and then....had to go to bed for work in the morning!!
Thanks again for all your help

That's the problem with ref books lot of interesting history, next thing you know it's time for bed.
Had yesterday and today off, sites closed due to the weather house we are working in -4 inside
So got plenty done on the tyrrell.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Tay99 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:07 pm
That's the problem with ref books lot of interesting history, next thing you know it's time for bed.
Had yesterday and today off, sites closed due to the weather house we are working in -4 inside
So got plenty done on the tyrrell.

I am so glad I am not the only one who does that....."just a couple minutes of research, then I will go up and model"
Boom, it is past my bedtime and I am reading far off topic of what I started.

So my Ferrari awaits 2 part clear, now the Lotus rear clip awaits braided cord

I started the tub and can do some of the detail painting there this weekend, but need the green body paint.
I will try to decant the Tamiya British Racing Green spray can...first time trying that, so will watch Paul's video again.
He didn't spill a single drop. I will be more like this

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:05 pm

Just f’d up the white primer on the tub...into the easy off she goes

I would like to think this happens as I am picky about how things should look and not that I am a heavy handed dumb azz with an airbrush. I would like to think...