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:banana: This will be my 80's build the Chieftain was upgraded in the mid 80's because it was found the newer soviet tank riffles could penitrate its frontal armour so they did an upgrade on the frontal armour for all chieftains after the upgrade all chieftains that had it were classed as mk 10's. I will be building the Berlin Brigade tank from the mid 80's.

A bit more history on the 'Berlin Brigade'.

In the mid eightys the new challenger II tank was about to enter service but it was decided not to give these new tanks and new tech to the 'Berlin Brigade' as it was deemed that although they would give a good account of themselves they would quickly be overwhelmed by opposing forces. So how do you go about improving your odds -

After the end of World War II, under the conditions of the Yalta and Potsdam agreements, the Allied forces occupied West Berlin. This occupation lasted throughout the Cold War. The Berlin Brigade were the brigade-sized garrison of forces based there by the British and American armies* Wikipedia

During the early 80’s, it became blindingly obvious that the Deep Green print schemes of the British army vehicles were far from suitable when set amongst an urban backdrop. It was observed by the Commanding Officer of the 4/7 Royal Dragoon Guards tank squadron in Berlin, that the urban setting was essentially made up of straight lines and an alternative to the camouflage schemes should be sort out.

Straight edged schemes were nothing new. Disruptive ‘dazzle’ schemes had been seen as early as the First World War. Rather than to conceal, these schemes were designed to confuse and mislead. Manually targeting a moving ship with these disruptive patterns proved to be very difficult and increased their change of surviving an attack. Technology however progressed, and the targeting systems at sea improved, hence making the patterns redundant by the end of the Second World War. It was however thought, that perhaps the learnings from the earlier camouflage schemes may well work in an urban environment and give the NATO forces some advantage should they come under fire.

Experimenting with cardboard cut outs of the Chieftain in the windows of his office, the Major experimented with the placement of different size squares and rectangles over the shape of the tank. He found he was able effectively to disguise the shape of the tank through the use of these shapes.

The colour palette of Blue Grey, NATO Brown and White were chosen as it was felt these colours selected the colours of the environment they were in. It was found that the scheme should work with blocks of colour, approximately eighteen inches square and should not be scaled up or down for different vehicles. It was also found that the aerial should be broken into sections of different colour as it would make it all but vanish leaving no visual clues. That said I have been unable to find any photographs supporting this claim.

The new scheme was met with great amusement by the ranks, however once the effectiveness of the scheme became apparent it was soon to be adopted by all British forces serving in Berlin. It was proven that a tank at 100 yards became almost invisible. Every vehicle used the same size blocks of colour in essentially the same pattern in the hope that it would make it harder for the Soviets to determine the strength of the stationed force.

The Soviets were so impressed with the scheme it started appearing on vehicles of the Warsaw Pact.

The kit comes in Takoms usual sturdy box and the contents are molded in grey styrene. The overall detail is top notch on the parts and a bag of track links and track pads are included note that these are not workable tracks so they will be built up around the wheels and fixed in place. The other parts are quite crisply molded and very little in any flash is present. One downfall to be avoided is on page one of the instructions it asks for a part for the wheels these two parts are not on the wheel sprues but are molded with the turret parts. Two Poly caps are provided these are for the gun pivot mount and not the wheels, there is also a vynle blast bag provided.

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Takom also provide some etch and decals:-

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The instructions are Takoms usual affair being glossy and clear to follow with a sprue map and color/paint chart at the start and finishing off with the color plates for painting the tank. You will also notice the Zombie tank depicted from a famous TV show.

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Extra's include the paint set from MIG and there are some reports of the split gun barrel causing problems so the Accurate Armour replacement will be used. I also have a masking set that hopefully will arrive toot sweet but again Takom got the paint wrong on the turret but the masking set rectifies this.

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Gonna have fun with this and thanks for looking in :dance: :hi:
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I knew you were going to pick something outstanding for this GB hawk!!

This is going to be one hell of a build I can feel it :th: :banana:
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:cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments both :thumb2: :cheers2:
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This beast looks like bait for my Ruskie T72

See you on the plains of northern Germany comrade. We're coming through the Fulda Gap, just like everyone expects us to.

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Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:13 am This beast looks like bait for my Ruskie T72

See you on the plains of northern Germany comrade. We're coming through the Fulda Gap, just like everyone expects us to.

Or are we...…. :shhh:
I'm expecting you to tunnel under it and come up in Brussels :whistle:
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Got to admire the courage in taking this paint scheme on. Doing the real thing was a nightmare. I am really looking forwards to seeing the finished version. :) :)
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    One of my office decorations is a hunk of the Berlin Wall.

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    :cheers2: :thumb2: Thanks for looking in and your comments every one, the mask set for the paint work is due any day now :thumb2: :th:
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    :banana: :banana: The lower hull was prepped then the wheels and running gear made up and glued in place. The main wheels/ drive sprockets have been left off for now to aid painting. The upper hull was added to the lower hull and then the rear bulkhead added after various greablies were placed in position. next the rear mud guards/equipment boxes. The upper hull has started to be fitted out begining at the front with the drivers hatch added along with the extra armour, still more to add but some parts will be left off until the paint is finished because it will be easyier to use the mask set doing it that way. :thumb2:

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    bfrd wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 pm One of my office decorations is a hunk of the Berlin Wall.

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    This build is going to be awesome.
    I was in Berlin the night the wall came down... A colleague and I were there on business and suddenly saw crowds drifting towards the Brandenburg Gate so we followed out of curiosity. Was just about to head back to the hotel, thinking it was only a political rally when suddenly guys were up on the wall with sledge hammers and that was it!! We picked up a couple of lumps each as souvenirs. Next day the Kurfursten Damm was lined with East and West Germans sat behind paste tables selling wall fragments at 200 Dm a pop!! :lol: :lol:

    Back on the West side of the Tiergarten the Army was lined up - Bedfords and Landrovers and a couple of CVR(W) Foxes - just in case. That camouflage scheme was remarkably good, you had to be almost on top of them to see the entire vehicle. Further away you got the more parts disappeared into the background!!

    If you are open to a display presentation suggestion Hawkmoon adding a typical German/Berliner type wall as a back drop would emphasis how effective that pattern was.
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      RangerNeil wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:30 pm
      bfrd wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 pm One of my office decorations is a hunk of the Berlin Wall.

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      I was in Berlin the night the wall came down... A colleague and I were there on business and suddenly saw crowds drifting towards the Brandenburg Gate so we followed out of curiosity. Was just about to head back to the hotel, thinking it was only a political rally when suddenly guys were up on the wall with sledge hammers and that was it!! We picked up a couple of lumps each as souvenirs. Next day the Kurfursten Damm was lined with East and West Germans sat behind paste tables selling wall fragments at 200 Dm a pop!! :lol: :lol:

      Back on the West side of the Tiergarten the Army was lined up - Bedfords and Landrovers and a couple of CVR(W) Foxes - just in case. That camouflage scheme was remarkably good, you had to be almost on top of them to see the entire vehicle. Further away you got the more parts disappeared into the background!!

      If you are open to a display presentation suggestion Hawkmoon adding a typical German/Berliner type wall as a back drop would emphasis how effective that pattern was.
      :cheers2: Thanks for looking in both, I had thought of doing a dio for it and do have Miniarts 'European street' in the stash that I could use. :thumb2:
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      Have you got any pic's showing the camo with a vehicle parked in a urban setting....curious to see how effective it is.
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      digger303 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 am Have you got any pic's showing the camo with a vehicle parked in a urban setting....curious to see how effective it is.
      Thanks Hawky :cheers2:
      Here you go-

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      The car is clearly outlined in the picture but the tanks silohette is undefined.

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      :banana: :banana: The wheels and the lower hull have been given a coat of Nato green the upper hull will be painted white like the turret tomorrow.

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      She's looking like a beast now :th: :banana:
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      looking good. Cant wait to see that paint job come to life :th: :th: :th:
      Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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      RangerNeil wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:30 pm
      bfrd wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 pm One of my office decorations is a hunk of the Berlin Wall.

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      This build is going to be awesome.
      I was in Berlin the night the wall came down... A colleague and I were there on business and suddenly saw crowds drifting towards the Brandenburg Gate so we followed out of curiosity. Was just about to head back to the hotel, thinking it was only a political rally when suddenly guys were up on the wall with sledge hammers and that was it!! We picked up a couple of lumps each as souvenirs. Next day the Kurfursten Damm was lined with East and West Germans sat behind paste tables selling wall fragments at 200 Dm a pop!! :lol: :lol:

      Back on the West side of the Tiergarten the Army was lined up - Bedfords and Landrovers and a couple of CVR(W) Foxes - just in case. That camouflage scheme was remarkably good, you had to be almost on top of them to see the entire vehicle. Further away you got the more parts disappeared into the background!!

      If you are open to a display presentation suggestion Hawkmoon adding a typical German/Berliner type wall as a back drop would emphasis how effective that pattern was.
      I went over to Berlin for New Years Eve 1989 (1990). What a happy outrageous party, they weren't just celebrating a new year, but a new future. I have a 20lb (45kg) chunk of the wall in the backyard, smashed it off myself while a (former) East German border guard held my beer... :cheers2:
      When work asked me to work the Millennium new year I had no problem with it, I knew it wouldn't measure up to Berlin 1989.
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      :cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments everyone, some happy memories there too :cheers2:
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      Looking good, I'll following along with great interest :th: :th:
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      Kevthemodeller wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:26 am Looking good, I'll following along with great interest :th: :th:
      :cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments Kev :thumb2: :cheers2:
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      :banana: :banana: The wheels have had the rubber bits painted and then were added to the hull. The upper deck has been painted white apart from the engine grills/covers which stay Nato green. I am making up the tracks right now and then the various baskets to add to the hull. Cant really do much more here until the mask gets here. :thumb2:

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      Its come together really well and starting to look rather splendid with the paint :clap: :clap:

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      Is this any use to you?

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        I must have missed this one along the way, then I see that it's not in the 'armour' section...

        Anyway; that's a great build. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the paint.
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        Basis for a fantastic outcome :th: :th: :th:
        I am curious did you have any issues with a sloppy fit with the running gear ? If so how did you over come it ?
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        Quax wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:16 pm Its come together really well and starting to look rather splendid with the paint :clap: :clap:

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        RangerNeil wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:45 pm Is this any use to you?

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        :cheers2: :cheers2: Thanks for putting that up I might just need it, going on it takes 3 weeks for post from down under to arrive the mask set should arrive any day now. :thumb2: :thumb2:
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        CygnusX1 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:02 am I must have missed this one along the way, then I see that it's not in the 'armour' section...

        Anyway; that's a great build. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the paint.
        :banana: Its part of the 80's sig so thats why you missed it but you did find it in the end so not all bad :cheers2: :cheers2:
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        digger303 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:11 am Basis for a fantastic outcome :th: :th: :th:
        I am curious did you have any issues with a sloppy fit with the running gear ? If so how did you over come it ?
        :th: :th: :cheers2:
        :th: I havent had a problem really there are no poly caps provided in the kit [Just 2 for the gun pivot]. The main wheels were a tight fit and needed opening up so they would go on. The idler and traction wheels although not as tight went on fine. There is no working suspension on this kit so once the wheels are fitted that's it.

        The tracks themselves are individual pieces glued together to the correct length and then the rubber pads added after painting. So although there are lots of parts the running gear /tracks are immovable once made up and fitted. :cheers2:
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        I'm not normally a British armor kind of guy but that machine does look like an absolute beast. Can't wait to see it with that camo pattern you've picked :banana:
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        It does indeed look like a beast. Glad to hear you didn't have much trouble with it going together.
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        :cheers2: :th: Thanks for looking in and your comments everyone. The chieftain got sold to many nations during its working life and is still held in great esteem by the crews who served with her. :thumb2: :cheers2:
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        :thumb2: Well I am about done with going any further with this until the masking set gets here. The tracks have been made up and painted then the rubber track pads added and then weathered up before fitting. All the turret baskets/boxes have also been assembled and painted ready for the final painting session to begin :thumb2:

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        :banana: :banana: Well the mask set finally arrived so I have been cracking on with this. The main gun still needs work and the storage baskets still need to be painted to match and be added.

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        Thats very, very, impressive!! Those masks were worth the wait. :D
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          Nice work as always Andy and very time consuming applying those masks I bet? Looking good mate, well done! :thumb2: :banana:

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          Beautiful paint job with that urban camo :th: :th: :th:
          Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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          Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:24 pm Beautiful paint job with that urban camo :th: :th: :th:
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          RangerNeil wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:49 pm Thats very, very, impressive!! Those masks were worth the wait. :D
          :cheers2: The masks more or less go on ok but various bumps get in the way at times so there is some touch up to be done after but it certainly works for getting the pattern down on the beast :thumb2:
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          AirCadet424 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:08 pm Nice work as always Andy and very time consuming applying those masks I bet? Looking good mate, well done! :thumb2: :banana:

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          :cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments Kev . The masks went down quite fast once you worked out the placement of the first one :thumb2:
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          digger303 wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:28 am
          Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:24 pm Beautiful paint job with that urban camo :th: :th: :th:
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          Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:24 pm Beautiful paint job with that urban camo :th: :th: :th:
          :cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments both just the trappings to add a nd a bit of weathering left to do :thumb2:
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          Looking good :banana: :th:
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          :banana: Calling this one done, nice kit to build and quite happy with this one :banana:

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          It's come out very well. :th: :bow:: :bow:: :cheers2:
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          :cheers2: Thanks for looking in and your comments Digger :thumb2:
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          Superb result of a very difficult cammo pattern :clap: :clap:
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