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OK - call me mad, but building that Tamiya King Tiger really restored the mojo so I tjought I'dgive another of the many helicopters in the stash a go!!
This is Tumpeters release of the CH-47A Chinook, one of the USU's triumvirateof heavy lift rotary wing ircraft, the others being the CH-53 and CH-35. This one actually fits on the work area - none of the Soviet ones do....

Brief history
The CH-47 Chinook is a tandem-rotor helicopter originally developed by American rotorcraft company Vertol and now manufactured by Boeing. The Chinook is a heavy-lift helicopter that is among the heaviest lifting Western helicopters. It started life on the design boards of Vertol in 1958. Known as the V-107 not was offered to the US Military for consideration. The Army cinsideted it too heavy for the assault role and too light for heavy lift needs. The US Marines found a use for it though and it became the CH-46 Sea Knight.
Vertol offered a enlarged version known as the V108 which was adopted as the CH-47.
It first flew in autumn of 1961 and began entering service on 1962. It is expected to remsin in service until 2040 at least.
In RAF service the designation of the 60+ macines on roll is HC-1 through HC-6A

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The Sprues
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The build
The parts on the sprue are well moulded with nice sharp detailing aand minimal flash. The sprue attachments are somewhat thicker than the Tamiya ones on the King Tiger but nowhere near as thick as the Amodel ones so cleaning up is easy. First step are the assemly of the flight deck. These are the component peices
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And assembled they look like this - the main IP and the bulkhead are dry fit only at the moment.
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I'm trying an experiment on this build - usually I paint all the detail then assemble, this time I am trying the assembly tnen paint method.
Next step was adding the glazing to the fuselage windows and once that was done and with the nightmare of joining the fuselage/nose sections of the two Mils still fresh in mind I decided to see how this one went together with the interior in. It went together perfectly! BIG sigh of relief!!! :lol:
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Quick question for the hive-mind: Am I right in thinking US helicopter cockpits were a matt black interior?
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    I haven't seen many, but yes, the ones I have seen were flat black
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    BigWall wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:17 pm I haven't seen many, but yes, the ones I have seen were flat black
    Many thanks - flat black it will be!! :)
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      I was recently tempted to get one of these and the flying banana, but talked myself out of it.
      So glad to see one getting built. Just hope it doesn't persuade me to get one... :lol:

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      digger303 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:44 am I was recently tempted to get one of these and the flying banana, but talked myself out of it.
      So glad to see one getting built. Just hope it doesn't persuade me to get one... :lol:

      :th: :th: :th:
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      Well, its a good kit if that helps, going together very nicely at the moment. Only had one issue ad thats with the instructions. The rotor shaft is made up of 4 pieces - the underside of the head, a large collar, a small bush and a steel pin and the instructions seem to indicate all should be stuck together.
      However when fitting them to the fuselage half I found the collars had an angle on the base so what I think is meant to happen is the collar is stuck inside the housing, the steel pin is pushed into the bush then up through the collar to be secured into the underside of the head with a dab of CA.
      Of course - I worked all this out AFTER the fuselage halves had been joined!!! But if you - or anyone else - ever build this kit its worth noting. Unless, like me, you aren't fussed about having spinning rotors!! :)

      Anyways - state of play tonight - fuelage is all in one piece.
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        Very cool, I've had the opportunity to sit in a few of these at airshows. What color are you planning on painting it?
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        aur0ra145 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:36 pm Very cool, I've had the opportunity to sit in a few of these at airshows. What color are you planning on painting it?
        Kit has two schemes, one all-over American green, the other the same but with a yellow band around the rear fuselage. I will probably go with the banded one. Will take a photo of the paint & decal instructions when I go back upstairs tonight.
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          These are the marking schemes that came with the kit - I am - currently :) - planning on using the bottom one!
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          Back to the build - and the engines are now mounted.
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          Its worth noting for anyone thinking of this kit that in the instructions part number 15 and 16 in the instructions are transposed:
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          They are notched so they only fit one way and have part of a bracing strut that joins the fuselage. Fit them as per the instructions and that stub points out away from the fuselage.
          Now its time for my favourite occupation - filling & sanding......
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            RangerNeil wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:47 pm
            Now its time for my favourite occupation - filling & sanding......
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            It's that old familiar feeling... :lol:

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            Sanding is all done, antenna are all on, this is covered with them one side!!
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            Fuselage is sitting on paint jars due to the number of antenna - and the cargo hook - hanging down.

            Front and rear rotors are completed - and Trumpeter have moulded the correct "droop" in which is a nice touch. One blade of the front rotors had the only real issue I've found with this kit - the mating face with the rotor head was warped badly. But time spent under a running hot water tap with a pair of smooth jawed pliers cured this.
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            And, remembering the CH-47 is one of the triumvirate of US Heavy Lift helicopters this both the CH-47's rotors versus ONE of the Mi-V-12's (the Mi-6/-22/-26 aren't much smaller)..... :lol:
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            There's big and there's BIG..... :lol: :lol:
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              Makes the chinook look silly.
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              digger303 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:40 pm Makes the chinook look silly.
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              It does somewhat!! Be interesting to see how the other two compare!

              For now though there is a more important question:
              What colour green is used on US army helicopters?

              Panting guide calls for Mr Hobby/Mr Color #308 "Olive Drab" - looking at paint conversion charts, though, thats so dark that one of the recommended alternatives is Tamiya XF-1, Flat Black
              Painting guide shows a green not too far off Soviet 4BO.

              So - what is everyone else using for their American military helicopters??
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                They are painted a very dark olive green. Tamiya has XF-27 Black Green that is super close.
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                BigWall wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:14 am They are painted a very dark olive green. Tamiya has XF-27 Black Green that is super close.
                Many thanks - will order some today :) Is that the same for all US helicopters?
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                  Well that's behaved itself a damned sight better than those A-Model monsters you've been battling with recently.

                  Nice work - looking forward to seeing it in paint now.

                  Still can't quite get my head around how big that mi-12 is...
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                  RangerNeil wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:20 pm
                  BigWall wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:14 am They are painted a very dark olive green. Tamiya has XF-27 Black Green that is super close.
                  Many thanks - will order some today :) Is that the same for all US helicopters?
                  I want to say yes of the top of my head. My anti-rejection drugs really mess with my memory though. Definitely find reference photos.
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                  Main rotors are done.
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                  Paint for the fuselage is due here on Weds so before then I'll add the yellow banding before then when I do the CH-54's rotor tips.
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                    Yellow bands added to the fuselage ready for masking before the XF27 is applied
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                      Paint went on the fuselage tonight. Still need to mask and paint the main cockpit screen:
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                      And with the masking removed from the yellow bands:
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                      And if you think you are seeing double in some of those - you are!!!
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                      I managed to pick up an RAF version in an auction! :)
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                        The paint looks great!
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                        BigWall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:53 am The paint looks great!
                        Thank you :) Still a bit to do but we are on the home stretch!!
                        Trumpeter version now has the undercarriageon so no more worrying abut the underside antenna
                        Matchbox version is in the filling & sanding stage. The Matchbox rotor assembly system is absolutely dire - more on that next time.

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                          I can only echo Joe - that green coat has gone down beautifully :th:
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                          Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm I can only echo Joe - that green coat has gone down beautifully :th:
                          Many thanks for the kind words! :)

                          Now - got a bit of a problem - the orangey colour on the rear pylon and around the nose is listed as:
                          Aqueous Hobby Color #14 - Orange
                          Mr Color #59 - Orange

                          The colour tool on this site as well as in the Modelshades appshows both as a Red and the equivalence being Tamiya X7/XF7 - Bright red.
                          Somehow I don't think so:
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                          Whereas using the Hobby Color app via the caera on the phone it says is Reggia Aeronautica Nocciola #4 which is more of a Sandy Yellow or Citadel 51042 Tau Light Ocre. RGB code is #C27124

                          The more I look the more I think its more a kind of Orange/Tan colour - maybe a Burn Orange.

                          Anyone else care to hazard a guess and suggest an appropriate make& colour of paint,??
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                            Wow, that green looks really good!
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                            It's definitely not red on the instruction sheet. Maybe experiment with some copper and yellow or orange along with some flat base? I don't know.
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                            Faffed about online converting the hex code my phone generated into an RAL code and thence into an actual colour. Final result was AK 3rd Gen Acrylic Light Orange, Cat No.11077. So I've ordered a bottle, be here in a weeks time.

                            Now, carrying on with the Matchbox release of the RAF version of the Chinook, lets play "Spot the Difference"! :lol:
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                              The Light Orange had arrived over the weekend so it went on today. The paint was said to be ready for airbrushing but was too thick so I added a few drops of flow improver. ButbI think I overdid it as theres some bleed-under along the tape edges.
                              There is also a cock- up by me in the masking of the thin lines so once its had a day or two to dry it will be remasked to correct.
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                                Looking good and I thought yellow was hard to get right....nailed it.
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                                Remasked the nose today and cleaned up the ovespray. Looks lot better now. :)
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                                  Paint is looking very neat.
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                                  Nice painting. I think you nailed the paint color for the nose!
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                                  Thanks guys!! :)
                                  First of the decals went on tonight - some are so minute and black text on a dark green I'm wondering why I bother. 3 hours of cutting and blotting have got me this far:
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                                  About halfway through the decal sheet....
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                                    They are a bit hard to spot, but keep going. Maybe it's one of those tipping point things where suddenly they will pop out.
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                                    digger303 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:27 am They are a bit hard to spot, but keep going. Maybe it's one of those tipping point things where suddenly they will pop out.
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                                    The big ones are eye catching but the tiny little ones - you can the outline of the carrier film but thats it.
                                    Did few more after dinner:
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                                      Nice progress - the tidyup work you did on the paint sections really paid off, that looks properly sharp.

                                      Those teeny decals are a real pita and make you wonder if they're worth it but they always add more to the finished look... individually they're nothing but once they're all there it just works :th:

                                      Did you see Airfix announced a new-tool 1/72 Chinook for this year?
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                                      Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:42 pm Nice progress - the tidyup work you did on the paint sections really paid off, that looks properly sharp.

                                      Those teeny decals are a real pita and make you wonder if they're worth it but they always add more to the finished look... individually they're nothing but once they're all there it just works :th:

                                      Did you see Airfix announced a new-tool 1/72 Chinook for this year?
                                      Yes - a HC Mk3/5 I believe. I will get one to go alongside the Matchbox HC Mk1 I think. :)
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                                        It's looking great! If nothing else, you know it was done properly. To me, decals are part of the build and I'm not in a hurry,
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                                        OK - calling this one finished. Full photos in the "Reveal" thread.
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                                          Adding this on here - the Matchbox Chinook HC-1, the RAF version has had its top coat added:
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                                          Next step tomorrow is a gloss coat for the decals.
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                                            Got it's stripes.
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                                            great work ! love the paint job
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                                            Decals are on the HC-1 ready for a matt top coat.
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                                              Very nice! I love how decals really make a model come alive. :th:
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