Pauls 1/48 Hobbyboss Messerschmitt Me262 a-1a/U2 (VO56)

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sun May 04, 2014 8:59 pm

So same kit as the Gupster, I've got three weeks before the D Day GB and with the F-16 out the way i thought i would build this. Ive wanted to build a 1/48 Me262 for a while having built a hasagawa 1/72 a few years back and this good looks great for the money.

It seems a great kit, fit is very good although some parts are way overcomplicated but it adds to making an enjoyable build

Please ignore the moose boy in the background i was skyping with him when i took these pics lol

Progress is fast i built most of these while doing a google hangout last night with Seb, Stefan, Devon and David

Cockpit and fuselage sidewalls ready for paint, like i said progress was fast. The level of detail is good too

Today i assembled the lower wing and landing gear well front assembled, and sanded the engine cowlings ready for some mr surfacer tomorrow.

Everything painted up, i decided to follow the kit colour callouts for the cockpit (RLM 66) and fuselage (RLM 02) as theres various discussion about the actual colours.
The gun bays where also painted with MR Hobby Buffable dark iron seen top right

Once dry i used cotton buds and micro brushes to buff it up.

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun May 04, 2014 9:44 pm

wow you are racing through this one
the hobby boss 262's are nice kits
have fun with the rest of the build

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun May 04, 2014 9:56 pm

Great looking kit and coming together very nicely.

Odd looking desk mascot though

Lego · Post by **Lego** » Sun May 04, 2014 10:28 pm

Looks really nice.

MrsModeller · Post by **MrsModeller** » Sun May 04, 2014 10:33 pm

Looking really nice, I like the HobbyBoss kits !!

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Sun May 04, 2014 11:10 pm

Nice to see another fast builder! Lol! Looks great Paul, think you might be scaring the kids away with those pics of your grandad though! Ha ha!

Orbyn · Post by **Orbyn** » Mon May 05, 2014 1:08 am

That gun bay is amazing. Which thinner do you use for the buffable Mr. Hobby, if any? I picked up some recently, but still need to get the correct thinner for it.

generalgrog · Post by **generalgrog** » Mon May 05, 2014 3:32 am

Welcome to the build Paul!!

GG

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon May 05, 2014 6:46 am

Orbyn wrote:That gun bay is amazing. Which thinner do you use for the buffable Mr. Hobby, if any? I picked up some recently, but still need to get the correct thinner for it.

No thinner needed nor primer just spray straight from the bottle

great stuff stinks like help though

peppie · Post by **peppie** » Mon May 05, 2014 3:45 pm

Great build so far

Curious as to what colourscheme it's going to get.

Man, I got to get me some of that buffable paint.....

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon May 05, 2014 4:27 pm

Quick and clean... That's always the way with you Paul.
Nice work... Oh... Nice bench guardian.
Haha.

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Mon May 05, 2014 5:08 pm

looks like a cheerfull chap

Orbyn · Post by **Orbyn** » Tue May 06, 2014 3:54 am

Paul wrote:
Orbyn wrote:That gun bay is amazing. Which thinner do you use for the buffable Mr. Hobby, if any? I picked up some recently, but still need to get the correct thinner for it.
No thinner needed nor primer just spray straight from the bottle great stuff stinks like help though

Awesome, thanks for the info. I can't wait to try it out.

T3hGuppy · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Wed May 07, 2014 3:56 pm

Cool buddy,

Seeing yours made me realise I did the cockpit the wrong colour lol.

Thankfully I haven't finished the interior yet.

Are you going to do the paint scheme in the box?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed May 07, 2014 3:59 pm

T3hGuppy wrote:Cool buddy,

Seeing yours made me realise I did the cockpit the wrong colour lol.

Thankfully I haven't finished the interior yet.

Are you going to do the paint scheme in the box?

I would like to do the scheme on the box it just looks a little odd to me will see what other schemes I can find, will send you some links if you want.

I had a bit of a disaster with my kit I'll explain later when I post an update

eoinfinnegan · Post by **eoinfinnegan** » Wed May 07, 2014 10:45 pm

That looks like cracking kit, the detail on those guns is jaw dropping

I cant wait to see how it come along

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Wed May 07, 2014 10:52 pm

your bad moment wasn't the same as mine i hope
i tried to paint the canopy but it seems that there was mold release stuff on there judging by the pudles of paint
it explains why the tape.wouldn't stick all that well either
good luck finding a nice camo scheme for your build
cheers Mark

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Thu May 08, 2014 9:49 am

MarkVerploeg wrote:your bad moment wasn't the same as mine i hope
i tried to paint the canopy but it seems that there was mold release stuff on there judging by the pudles of paint
it explains why the tape.wouldn't stick all that well either
good luck finding a nice camo scheme for your build
cheers Mark

My bad moment involved superglue kicker (I used superglue the repair a mark from a slip of the rescriber) when I sprayed the kicker on it reacted with the tamiya glued joint on the top of the fusalage and it all ripped open again, and try as I might I just couldn't get it to glue together properly. So I took extreme measures, ripped the fusalage fully apart, rescued my cockpit and gun bay and went out and bought another kit and used the new fusalage halves and started the process over again.

Never had a problem before and I'll not let kicker near seams ever again lol, it's a shame as the seams were all filled, sanded polished and rescribed.

ah well round two

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Thu May 08, 2014 9:54 am

ouch that must have hurt
that should be a mojo killer
but you'll be able to fix it
cheers Mark

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Thu May 08, 2014 12:54 pm

MarkVerploeg wrote:ouch that must have hurt
that should be a mojo killer
but you'll be able to fix it
cheers Mark

Yep just a tad, just finished putting filler on the seams so nearly back to where i was at lol

Lego · Post by **Lego** » Thu May 08, 2014 4:35 pm

Best of luck with that I hope it turns out as good because it was coming along nicely. It had to be the canuck that put you off, definitely his fault.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Thu May 08, 2014 6:35 pm

It wasn't me....

Damn buddy!! That sucks beyond measure!

rodrant · Post by **rodrant** » Fri May 09, 2014 12:36 am

Paul wrote:
MarkVerploeg wrote:your bad moment wasn't the same as mine i hope
i tried to paint the canopy but it seems that there was mold release stuff on there judging by the pudles of paint
it explains why the tape.wouldn't stick all that well either
good luck finding a nice camo scheme for your build
cheers Mark
My bad moment involved superglue kicker (I used superglue the repair a mark from a slip of the rescriber) when I sprayed the kicker on it reacted with the tamiya glued joint on the top of the fusalage and it all ripped open again, and try as I might I just couldn't get it to glue together properly. So I took extreme measures, ripped the fusalage fully apart, rescued my cockpit and gun bay and went out and bought another kit and used the new fusalage halves and started the process over again.

Never had a problem before and I'll not let kicker near seams ever again lol, it's a shame as the seams were all filled, sanded polished and rescribed. ah well round two

Tough luck buddy ...it was going nicely , for sure you will complete your build with success

caSSius · Post by **caSSius** » Fri May 09, 2014 7:55 pm

Paul wrote:... and I'll not let kicker near seams ever again lol, it's a shame as the seams were all filled, sanded polished and rescribed. ah well round two

Sad to hear of the problems, but great recovery and thanks for sharing your experience; I'll definitely be more cautious with my future use of kicker. I doubt I'd have been as calm as you've appeared to be.

Cheers,

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 10, 2014 10:03 pm

So after the disaster of the ca kicker splitting open my fusalage I got a new kit a after a couple days work I'm back to where I was and even further now.

Ive filled polished, rescribed the fusalage seams, got the upper and lower wings on, the horizontal and vertical stabilisers, the rudder and the front cowling and lower cowlings on too, just need to let the glue dry over night and then I'll polish it all and see what filler is needed and rescribe any lost detail. Again the flexi file touch and flow system has proved invaluable leaving really nice neat glue seams all round.

Also with having another kit I redid the engines as I wasn't totally happy with how the other turned out (I was a little heavy handed when sanding) so this is ready for some mr surfacer and then polishing and again adding any lost detail.

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Again with having spares from to other kit, I've decided to leave one of the gun bay doors lose so I can have one closed and one posed with the hatch arm showing both closed and open positions

I'll glue this in temporally with pva glue and remove once all painted

I need to re spray a little of the mr hobby buffable as some has rubbed of due to handling the model this will be done before buttoning up the cowling. There's also a small step the needs sanding I the front panel.

peppie · Post by **peppie** » Sat May 10, 2014 10:53 pm

What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

Great recovery Paul.

One question; I've read somewhere that on the real plane, all te panellines were filled to make the plane as smooth as possible. Then how come there are panellines in the model?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 10, 2014 10:55 pm

peppie wrote:What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

Great recovery Paul.

One question; I've read somewhere that on the real plane, all te panellines were filled to make the plane as smooth as possible. Then how come there are panellines in the model?

No idea mate, I'll have a look into that though

peppie · Post by **peppie** » Sat May 10, 2014 11:09 pm

Like this.
Would also be a interesting scheme to make.....

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 13, 2014 7:46 pm

Its already been made!
http://doogsmodels.com/completed-builds ... e-262a-2a/

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 13, 2014 7:50 pm

Been out of the loop...
Paul, 1. Nice progess! 2. Holy cra...sorry to hear about your kicker incident...strange, but who knows how these Chemicals react sometimes, lesson learned for all! 3. Great recovery mate!!! Glad you did not throw the towel (would have understood) and continue.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue May 13, 2014 8:06 pm

patrickroos wrote:Been out of the loop...
Paul, 1. Nice progess! 2. Holy cra...sorry to hear about your kicker incident...strange, but who knows how these Chemicals react sometimes, lesson learned for all! 3. Great recovery mate!!! Glad you did not throw the towel (would have understood) and continue.

Thanks buddy and that one with the filled seams looks cool too, I take it they only did that for testing purposes?

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 13, 2014 8:32 pm

Well, there could be many reasons. Testing, ferrying etc. They were built all metal and the seams were puttied as protection.
Most often RLM02 was used as primer all over and undercoat. So internals was often RLM02 or bare metal. Or a thin/sloppy coat of 02 where the metal shines through/seen in places. Cockpits most often RLM66 and occasionally some internal parts.
At the end there was no time to paint some, whole or partially, still off they went to service.
As such there are many records of 262s in all stages of paint. Especially encountered by the allies as they advanced. Also with more or less finished camo. It was also common that replaced or repaired parts incl, fuse, wing(s) etc was not painted. (no paint or no time)
Finally the 262s can be found in the most fantastic colors/camos. (they used what they had available)
Alltogether makes the 262 an Amazing subject for us modellers...

Half finished

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 13, 2014 8:45 pm

Forgot to add: With plenty of room for artistic license...

peppie · Post by **peppie** » Tue May 13, 2014 9:55 pm

So, no panellines then, like I said.
Or sometimes with, sometimes without

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue May 13, 2014 9:57 pm

peppie wrote:So, no panellines then, like I said.
Or sometimes with, sometimes without

A few without, i would say most with

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 13, 2014 11:05 pm

Oh yes, putty was only thin layer, panels and rivets all show through, panels lines and wash it is!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 17, 2014 6:09 pm

So all the fuselage is filled, sanded, rescribed etc. Canopy was masked and then it was primed with AK grey primer.

It was then Preshaded

And the underside and side of the fuselage where airbrushed in Mr hobby RLM 66

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Sat May 17, 2014 6:46 pm

Nice progress mate, looks very "clean" and "crisp" as usual.

Underside looks nice, pre shading showing through just perfect.
Im two steps behind you...thread up tonight.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:51 pm

Thanks Patrick

Done some more work this evening

Got the rlm 75 freehanded on

Then using the colour callout as a guide i made up some plasticard "masks", i didn't want a full hard edge camo so by using the card and raising it up a couple of mm with white tack its given a semi soft edge camo scheme which i like.

Still got the rlm 65 black green to do on the tail and nose, then ill fade the paint work and post shade. Plus the mottling and lose the tidy transition from the upper fuselage colours to the rlm76 blue adding a random pattern as its too neat.

Criticisms and opinions are welcome as its the first time I've done splinter camo this way

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:19 pm

Looks great Paul
But wich brand of paint did you use ?
I painted my heinkel he-111 with vallejo model air and the black green turned out a lot darker then yours
I do like the camo though
Mig jiminez use templates like that for some camo's and modulation work
It looks like a fast way of working and with good results
Cheers Mark

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:29 pm

MarkVerploeg wrote:Looks great Paul
But wich brand of paint did you use ?
I painted my heinkel he-111 with vallejo model air and the black green turned out a lot darker then yours
I do like the camo though
Mig jiminez use templates like that for some camo's and modulation work
It looks like a fast way of working and with good results
Cheers Mark

Mr hobby aqueous, That RLM 65 black green isn't on yet Marc, probably why it doesn't look as dark lol. That's if you meant Rlm 65

As for the templates being fast I wouldn't say that, it took me three hours doing this lol

MarkVerploeg · Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:34 pm

That explains a lot
And 3 hours jeez
Normal masking would have been faster
But Mig does it for a living so it would look bad if it takes him hours
And practice makes perfect

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:38 pm

MarkVerploeg wrote:That explains a lot
And 3 hours jeez
Normal masking would have been faster
But Mig does it for a living so it would look bad if it takes him hours
And practice makes perfect

Yeah much faster, but I didn't want the really hard edge masking tape gives

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Sun May 18, 2014 6:19 pm

Looking good Paul...and now...go nuts with mottling? No?

Nice paintjob mate!

T3hGuppy · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Mon May 19, 2014 7:35 am

Nice the plastic card really did help with the transitions.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue May 20, 2014 9:19 pm

Mammoth masking task on this tonight, for the rlm 65 on the tail and nose and also for the silver engine cowlings. i used mr hobby for the rlm 65 and citadel Mitheril silver for the cowlings.

I also got the mottling done to the side too, using the colour callout as a guide. Ive put a few photos up as I'm not sure I'm happy with the mottling

Ive removed two of the antenna supports of the nose now so i know where they are lol, ill stick them back on once I'm ready (to not knock them off again ha ha).

Oh and btw that right hand gun bay cover has just been lightly glued in place once complete ill display it open

Next up, panel & paint fading, and post shading.

rodrant · Post by **rodrant** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:01 pm

Very nice painted Paul ! Looking good this build ,

as for the mottling I buy on ebay one template for 1/48 scale from Eduard some weeks ago ...I will have some mottling to do in a Heinkell 219 UhU and in a ME 410 ...I only have done it Freehand in the FW 190 it was more or less ok , but now will try to use this template ...I'm wondering if it will be really usefull or not as I must test it first in some carton , suppose that in round fuselages that doesn't work that well .

Well in your build seems tha tyou doesn't need this templates , it is very nice painted , and this model is great , I like the German WWII camo schemes a lot !

T3hGuppy · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:13 pm

Looking good buddy.

I like the mottling.

patrickroos · Post by **patrickroos** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:24 pm

Getting there....nice!

steveau29 · Post by **steveau29** » Wed May 21, 2014 1:59 pm

Paul

Can I ask what nose weight did you use and where did you put it. I love the Me 262 but I'm afraid to do it because I don't know where to put the nose weight or where to put it. Your doing a fantastic job on it. Good job. Love watching this model come to life.