Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:11 am

Playing with the body panels

I was going to make water and oil lines to the radiators, but it doesn’t make sense as they are all covered up in the side pods
Not sure why those pics went vertical, thanks Flickr

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:03 am

double post oops

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:26 pm

Man the detail in these pictures are amazing! Wow!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:04 pm

DrSprue wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:26 pm Man the detail in these pictures are amazing! Wow!

Thank you, I call it selective photography
Was super honoured to be mentioned in the running on the live show yesterday....I had a laugh as I have not cemented any of the sub components together yet. Even the engine block is loose from the transmission awaiting my braided hoses.
Shows Tamiya engineering more than my skill

So what about Gravity Colors??
I defended him on that video as apparently the European ex partner is slagging him
I can no longer contact him of Facebook
Website contact has proven useless
Maybe look at local automotive two part clears???

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:08 pm

It's really coming together now Scott, looks great mate

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:15 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:04 pm
DrSprue wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:26 pm Man the detail in these pictures are amazing! Wow!
Thank you, I call it selective photography
Was super honoured to be mentioned in the running on the live show yesterday....I had a laugh as I have not cemented any of the sub components together yet. Even the engine block is loose from the transmission awaiting my braided hoses.
Shows Tamiya engineering more than my skill

So what about Gravity Colors??
I defended him on that video as apparently the European ex partner is slagging him
I can no longer contact him of Facebook
Website contact has proven useless
Maybe look at local automotive two part clears???

I dont know Scott, I see from his reply to you he finally got the colors? Just noticed you both had some issues with that company and gave you a heads up. To me Gravity... is just what happens to my parts when a part goes flying away from my snippers and the rug monster kicks in and steals them from me!. haha!

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:46 pm

DrSprue wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:15 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:04 pm
DrSprue wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:26 pm Man the detail in these pictures are amazing! Wow!
Thank you, I call it selective photography
Was super honoured to be mentioned in the running on the live show yesterday....I had a laugh as I have not cemented any of the sub components together yet. Even the engine block is loose from the transmission awaiting my braided hoses.
Shows Tamiya engineering more than my skill

So what about Gravity Colors??
I defended him on that video as apparently the European ex partner is slagging him
I can no longer contact him of Facebook
Website contact has proven useless
Maybe look at local automotive two part clears???
I dont know Scott, I see from his reply to you he finally got the colors? Just noticed you both had some issues with that company and gave you a heads up. To me Gravity... is just what happens to my parts when a part goes flying away from my snippers and the rug monster kicks in and steals them from me!. haha!

Hi Scott.

Sorry to hear you still haven't got your gravity order still.

There is a guy in Canada who is importing zero paint he's listed on hiro boy web site you could try him at least you won't have to deal with customs, keep up the great work on the build.

demarcation · Post by **demarcation** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:52 pm

Beautiful work as always Scott!!

There are several threads about that Gravity colors dude on the MCM forum......

Hopefully you will get your stuff or at least a refund?

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:10 am

Kevthemodeller wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:08 pm It's really coming together now Scott, looks great mate

Cheers Kev, thanks pal

demarcation wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:52 pm Beautiful work as always Scott!!

There are several threads about that Gravity colors dude on the MCM forum......
Hopefully you will get your stuff or at least a refund?

Having a small business is hard, so I don’t want to slag him
The paints as a product are great, just the business end needs improvement.
I will try something else for clear and move the Lotus and Ferrari along...and wind up with two Gravity orders out of the blue, likely. Always seems to work that way

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:00 am

Ok, so a rainy Sunday, I did my chores and got to plod away at the Lotus
She got a second coat of green on the body panels and a first on the wings.
Then I thought I would try a decal.....they are beautiful Cartograph decals, this is basically right after final positioning.

Little trouble on the nose, but hopefully the red bottle, set or sol never remember, will settle it down a bit more.

Also got wheels painted, detailed and the tires sanded...no decal for manufacturer on these tires

Used clear shrink tubing to make the main fuel line just in front of the engine and then some beading wire as the rear brake electrical line.

Hoping for a good mail call at the office tomorrow. I am off, but have a service call and lots of paperwork to do.
Funny on a vacation the last place you want to go is work...go figure

BobM · Post by **BobM** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:23 am

Great work as always, Scott; I really enjoy following your work.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:24 am

BobM wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:23 am Great work as always, Scott; I really enjoy following your work.

Hey Bob, thanks
Great to hear from you, thanks for posting

...keeps me motivated

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:15 am

Great start with decals Scott, To me it's the start when the car starts to really comes alive, also liking the detail on the fuel tank. Hope you get some luck with the clear soon.

Kingdan · Post by **Kingdan** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:33 am

I can see a future winner here Scott those decals look great got to love martini scheme on any vehicle

gaz45 · Post by **gaz45** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:47 pm

That looks awesome mate

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:50 pm

Looking damn good mate, need to get me one of these i think.

Shame about gravity mate, i would give up to be honest and ask for a refund

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:18 pm

Cheers guys, appreciate the comments
Will be moving away from Gravity Colors for sure, not able to contact on FB now "not available" is the message
So kiss that $ goodbye. Time for me to move on and quit bitching about it, not let it delay any projects anymore

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:53 pm

Why come into work today on my week off???
See an emergency patient, have an IT guy tell me nothing is wrong with the stupid 3D CT scanner now, go through four months of junk mail and clean up my desk area.
Ha Ha, perfect. The real reason I came in was to check the mail

I am so getting hosed tonight

...that usually means getting drunk in Canadian verbiage, but in this case it means I am adding hoses to the engine
Big thanks to Tay for sending me in the right direction for these...thanks Buddy

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:31 am

Yep, I got hosed

I have to take all these pictures because, as Dan would say, “you are never going to see it”....and he is right

Two without the exhaust system on:

Rest with an awesome fitting exhaust..it fell into place so easy!!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:19 pm

No words other than ... wow!

Kingdan · Post by **Kingdan** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:15 pm

Holy butter balls they make it look real that's some nice work Scott well worth the effort mate

OlaHansson · Post by **OlaHansson** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:38 pm

Looks amazing!!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:59 pm

Thank you gentlemen

The green is fighting me at the moment. I might have to do another decant or just barely have enough.
The coverage has been spotty over filled ejector pins

Stash · Post by **bfrd** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:28 pm

This is some of the best model work I have ever seen.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:15 am

bfrd wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:28 pm This is some of the best model work I have ever seen.

Oh Dude, seriously blushing

I could point out a million things wrong, stuff I just did for the F of it or for no information.
Funny as I was thinking if it was put into a competition, the up close warts would kill it.
But I thank you a ton for saying that, I appreciate the sentiment

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:24 am

Today was decal day...I like when this happens as the build starts to come alive

..and is coming to its conclusion. Usually I have a hate on for a build as I get to the end, but this one has been pretty ok

I got most of the transfers done with only a bit of a struggle on the long side ones and some tears and crinkles

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:17 pm

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:23 pm

DrSprue wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:17 pm

Ha ha

Oh I love that movie, well chosen

“ what great knockers”...

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:48 am

Getting down to the crunch list for finishing it all off...making a work list for myself here

*paint black on side skirts....done

*final decals and sol applications for no bumps or wrinkles
*clear coats for green bits
*polish aluminum bits as needed

* seat belts, don’t forget the damned seat belts

*front and rear wings on
*extinguishers mounted and wired

*engine to chassis

* rear suspension linkage
*Throttle linkage
*cockpit lining

*final tubing hookups
* mount side skirts and body panels
*Touch up painting as needed
*wheels on

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:59 pm

Been working away at my list....seatbelts done and everything shown is cemented now

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:40 pm

It just keeps getting better, can't wait for the finish

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:28 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:40 pm It just keeps getting better, can't wait for the finish

Ya me too, finish

Thanks Kev

Ok F1 junkies, who makes the fabric belts ?????
I looked at ribbon but it was garbage. Anything else to use as seat belts for future builds??

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:33 pm

Getting to the point where I want to figure how to display this car.
Here is a garage shot of the two type 79’s

I was kind of thinking of maybe a cross between those two pics......pit lane scene, but with all the cowlings off and raised up in the back, while the car is forward maybe a helmet, front wheels and removed steering wheel in the foreground.

Or this

With the imprecise cowling fitting and covering all the detail, I think this is the way to go
Comments?

Post by **Tomcat64** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am

That is just stunning it really is

My vote would be to pose it with the cowling off so you can show off all that detail work you've done around the engine and gearbox - it would be a shame to bury that all away. Are you able to just take the engine covers off or are they moulded to the side pods on this one?

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:06 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am That is just stunning it really is

My vote would be to pose it with the cowling off so you can show off all that detail work you've done around the engine and gearbox - it would be a shame to bury that all away. Are you able to just take the engine covers off or are they moulded to the side pods on this one?

I could fit the side pods on, but they cover up quite a bit and frankly look like pants,as you English like to say, withought the other cowlings on.
But it would save me from having to detail the two radiators...not that those are too big of a deal. I repainted all the aluminum and removed some attatchment bumps so it can all be open. Gonna pose it with the pods on and see how she looks though.
I have a Tamiya figure set at work I might just grab and see if any other details can be added to the scene

for the help Tomcat

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:59 pm

Wow that body color is exact!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:26 pm

DrSprue wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:59 pm Wow that body color is exact!

snot bad match

I had to decant some more for touch ups as someone's fingers, ahem, keep getting silver, glue and prints into the paint

Post by **Tomcat64** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:08 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:06 pm
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am That is just stunning it really is

My vote would be to pose it with the cowling off so you can show off all that detail work you've done around the engine and gearbox - it would be a shame to bury that all away. Are you able to just take the engine covers off or are they moulded to the side pods on this one?
I could fit the side pods on, but they cover up quite a bit and frankly look like pants,as you English like to say, withought the other cowlings on.
But it would save me from having to detail the two radiators...not that those are too big of a deal. I repainted all the aluminum and removed some attatchment bumps so it can all be open. Gonna pose it with the pods on and see how she looks though.
I have a Tamiya figure set at work I might just grab and see if any other details can be added to the scene
for the help Tomcat

Was just thinking how they generally looked up on the stands in the garage and from memory it was unusual to see them stripped down to the side-pods unless they were having to do some serious digging in the radiators; engine covers and nose cowling off was the norm.

I just saw your comment about the lack of tyre stencils as well - that really is strange; I wonder if Goodyear got stroppy about licensing at some point because I remember Tamiya kits having the name embossed on the tyres when I was a kid. I've got a couple of spare Goodyear & Eagle curved tyre stencils left over from the McLaren build which I'm happy to put in an envelope if that'd help at all; unfortunately it's only the two sets they included as spares but maybe they'd work for your rear tyres as the second pic you posted doesn't appear to have stencils on the fronts?

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:12 pm

Yes, I think you are correct, looks like Tamiya and Goodyear had a legal snit and there is not a single goodyear logo anywhere
Stupid of them as it just keeps their name in people's minds rather than besmirch their reputation ...or is it money, ya it was money

I will keep the tires bald as
1. Bald is beautiful
2. It is how it came and I am lazy
Thank you for the offer though...you will need that stencil when we do the F1 build sig.
Oh Fridgy, that is your baby!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:36 am

Just in case any of you get the notion that I have a clue what I am doing, here is my latest disaster.
I call it “ Let’s get CA glue all over everything plus my thumb and then get silver paint on there somehow as well and get it all over the model”..bit long of a title, but very accurate.

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Silvered thumbprint over the Tissot decal on the RHS Wing front...not removable.
Inside of both vertical wings covered in Ca glue as the horizontal section would not hold and slid down repeatedly.
I have stripped the paint off the inside verticals and reprimed them grey them Ultimate...but before that I added indicator pins to get some mechanical assistance for the second glue up attempt

Two pins each side made from that silver wire and I used white Ultimate primer to mark where the pin hits the vertical wing. Drilled holes all the way through and then will have a PE rivet on top. This should allow for an easier glue up attempt #2

Stash · Post by **bfrd** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:54 am

Nice job on the recovery. I am afraid I know that CA game all too well. It isn't always that recoverable. Really nice work.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:51 am

bfrd wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:54 am Nice job on the recovery. I am afraid I know that CA game all too well. It isn't always that recoverable. Really nice work.

I knew the wing would not assemble correctly as was...the tiny indent and bump were way too weak to get a positive seat.
But hell ya, slather some Ca glue in there Scott, it will hold. Not!
Gotta listen to that little voice and SLOW THE HECK DOWN!

I have re-painted the vertical wing inners now and touched up the horizontal one as well.
Then I put it all away to let the paint set up properly and not get rushed into glue again...or finger prints
It is really close to finish and I think I have the diorama sorted.
Going to TEST out a MR Color gx uv clear on a paint mule and see if it is ok to use. See I am trying to use my head

Post by **Stokesy44** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:47 am

Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am That is just stunning it really is

My vote would be to pose it with the cowling off so you can show off all that detail work you've done around the engine and gearbox - it would be a shame to bury that all away. Are you able to just take the engine covers off or are they moulded to the side pods on this one?

Absolutely what TC said. Looks stunning with its clothes off.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:33 pm

Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:47 am
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:45 am That is just stunning it really is

My vote would be to pose it with the cowling off so you can show off all that detail work you've done around the engine and gearbox - it would be a shame to bury that all away. Are you able to just take the engine covers off or are they moulded to the side pods on this one?
Absolutely what TC said. Looks stunning with its clothes off.

Thank you David, I know this isn't your shtick so to speak so I appreciate you looking and commenting

Naked she will be, but with the side pods on as no space on the base for them off and Neil is right about not being too torn down in pit lane

Last few pics of her before she puts some covers on

Johnj · Post by **Johnj** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:19 am

Looks like i've missed quite a bit ! That is stunning scott and i will take the time to read it from the start.
I think it will probably inspire me to get on with the Enzo though.

Stunning isn't a big enough word for it, i really am speachless !

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:02 pm

Johnj wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:19 am Looks like i've missed quite a bit ! That is stunning scott and i will take the time to read it from the start.
I think it will probably inspire me to get on with the Enzo though.

Stunning isn't a big enough word for it, i really am speachless !

Thanks John, it is great to see you on here posting again

The camera makes things look better...selective photography I call it

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:56 pm

Looking great Scott, liking all the detail you have put into this build

coming to the end now will be great when you get it displayed.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:37 pm

Tay99 wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:56 pm Looking great Scott, liking all the detail you have put into this build
coming to the end now will be great when you get it displayed.

Thanks Bud, it is getting close for sure.
I think I am over the biggest building hurdles, waiting on my Hanes book for any further little details and then have to decide how to display it.
I have to give you a ton of thanks for all the help along the way...as I said before, you hand held me through...so

to you my friend
Scott

Tay99 · Post by **Tay99** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:33 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:37 pm
Tay99 wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:56 pm Looking great Scott, liking all the detail you have put into this build
coming to the end now will be great when you get it displayed.
Thanks Bud, it is getting close for sure.
I think I am over the biggest building hurdles, waiting on my Hanes book for any further little details and then have to decide how to display it.
I have to give you a ton of thanks for all the help along the way...as I said before, you hand held me through...so to you my friend
Scott

Ah thanks mate,that's what this forums about helping each other with a gentle prod in the right direction. Keep up the great work.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:21 am

My book finally came

Just in time for Easter weekend, so I will have time to read it front to back