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Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:12 pm
by Augustus
SteveAFV wrote:Augustus wrote:Day off today so should get some done. Here's the tracks sprayed with dark iron. I then made 2 rust washes. I applied the dark to the inside of the tracks and the light to the outer, this allowed them to mix more naturally (well that was the idea) without painting one over the other.
Were the washes enamel or acrylic. I was researching how to do my vinyl tracks and read that enamel thinners/white spirit attacjs the track material. I'd have thought that a good acrylic primer and base would have protected the vinyl. How have your found it?
Can I be cheeky and ask about your technique for painting road wheels as the rubber part in yours looks really good.
The two washes on the tracks were home made oil washes made with Abteilung Light and Dark Rust Oil colours mixed with artists white spirit. The white Spirit didn't affect the vinyl and there was no primer layed ( I forgot!)just Tamiya Dark Iron paint. But I've previously used enamel washes from AK and Mig and they've also had no adverse effects on the tracks but they were primed and painted.
Not cheeky mate, and no big secret with the wheels. As the wheel system on this kit is pretty simple I done them on the model. They were sprayed with the base coat, although I'm not sure this is the correct way. I then just hand painted the rubber parts with AK Old Rubber Tyres AK-720 which is a dark grey colour. I used to use Tamiyas Rubber Black but find the AK paint a better colour and easier to use. I then use a dark wash, in this case Abteilung Oil Engine Grease, to go around the rim. This makes the wheel rims stand out more. For me this is one of the areas Oil washes really have an advantage with a stronger capillary action, meaning you only need a very small brush lightly touched to one part of the 'groove' and let science do the rest. A lot easier to use and clean up. Well that's what I've found anyway,
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:03 pm
by SteveAFV
Augustus wrote:
The two washes on the tracks were home made oil washes made with Abteilung Light and Dark Rust Oil colours mixed with artists white spirit. The white Spirit didn't affect the vinyl and there was no primer layed ( I forgot!)just Tamiya Dark Iron paint. But I've previously used enamel washes from AK and Mig and they've also had no adverse effects on the tracks but they were primed and painted.
Not cheeky mate, and no big secret with the wheels. As the wheel system on this kit is pretty simple I done them on the model. They were sprayed with the base coat, although I'm not sure this is the correct way. I then just hand painted the rubber parts with AK Old Rubber Tyres AK-720 which is a dark grey colour. I used to use Tamiyas Rubber Black but find the AK paint a better colour and easier to use. I then use a dark wash, in this case Abteilung Oil Engine Grease, to go around the rim. This makes the wheel rims stand out more. For me this is one of the areas Oil washes really have an advantage with a stronger capillary action, meaning you only need a very small brush lightly touched to one part of the 'groove' and let science do the rest. A lot easier to use and clean up. Well that's what I've found anyway,
Thanks for th tips. You must have a steady hand mate. When painting the 1/48 rubber tyres on my Humber I found it quite hard to get a sharp line and not keep getting the odd spot of rubber colour on the hub.
Your model is looking really great by the way.

Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:33 pm
by Augustus
SteveAFV wrote:
Thanks for th tips. You must have a steady hand mate. When painting the 1/48 rubber tyres on my Humber I found it quite hard to get a sharp line and not keep getting the odd spot of rubber colour on the hub.
Your model is looking really great by the way.

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Cheers.
I still get plenty on the the wheel itself I just make sure I have a Q Tip dampened with thinner (or water depending) close by. Also whenever hand painting I always add a drop of Ultimate Thinner or a retarder (I think Ultimate Thinner has a retarder in it) to it even if the paint don't look like it needs thinning. I find it makes the paint 'flow' better so you get better coverage. If you have to go over a part again due to poor coverage that's when you get stuff like roll up starting to happen.
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:12 pm
by SteveAFV
Thanks for advice

Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:27 am
by Augustus
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:48 am
by Stokesy44
Looks superb mate. Really good job.
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:20 am
by SergioSolo
Wow, looks great! Well done

Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:28 pm
by SteveAFV
I like it!
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:52 am
by Augustus
Thanks everyone for the kind words, they certainly do act as encouragement.
Apart the finishing details already thought of I've been looking at it and the barrel seems a bit 'clean' compared to the rest of the build so although not planned I may have to do something there.
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:19 pm
by Augustus
I'm working today, Sunday, double bubble, but aim to complete on Monday when there's no work.
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:45 pm
by Gauzer
Barrel was used to climb up and down so maybe this crew was doing that and made it shy and clean.
Re: Augustus's Panzer IV (H)
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:57 am
by Augustus
Thanks for everyone kind words and for viewing my first GB. I've finally finished, the reveal shots can be found here:
http://intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=20811