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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:27 pm
by Tay99
Right go and sit in the corner and write 100 times (I won't be heavy handed next time)

I am sure it will come out in the wash. These lessons help us in the end, the main thing is not to rush and try and think things through before we start.
Keep at it.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:31 pm
by DrSprue
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:05 pm Just f’d up the white primer on the tub...into the easy off she goes :bash: :wall:
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I would like to think this happens as I am picky about how things should look and not that I am a heavy handed dumb azz with an airbrush. I would like to think... :bash: :shifty:
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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:50 am
by Twokidsnosleep
F’ing white
White is separating in the bottle after shaking....brand new just opened bottle. And yes I shook the heck out of it.
Grey Ultimate sprayed like silk no problem.
Sucks as I like priming in white, but don’t trust it anymore :bash:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:17 am
by bfrd
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:50 am F’ing white
White is separating in the bottle after shaking....brand new just opened bottle. And yes I shook the heck out of it.
Grey Ultimate sprayed like silk no problem.
Sucks as I like priming in white, but don’t trust it anymore :bash:
The white can be a little fussy. Did you try warming it? It certainly shouldn't separate that quickly. A little heat may keep it from doing that.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:38 am
by Twokidsnosleep
bfrd wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:17 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:50 am F’ing white
White is separating in the bottle after shaking....brand new just opened bottle. And yes I shook the heck out of it.
Grey Ultimate sprayed like silk no problem.
Sucks as I like priming in white, but don’t trust it anymore :bash:
The white can be a little fussy. Did you try warming it? It certainly shouldn't separate that quickly. A little heat may keep it from doing that.
I was in a rush before a game, that we lost by a goal, and now am pissed
I didn’t warm it, house was cold as heat went off, just wanted a Fine mist/ dusting of white for bright aluminum
GD white is temperamental and not to be rushed through
My own fault, all is ok now.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:54 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Oh I may have pooched my first primer and had to strip and retry, BUT the aluminum top coat has been nailed.
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This Mr. Metal Color cut with MLT near 50:50 sprayed like heaven through my H&S Ultra, just so smooth and slick.

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My god it was amazing. The big Bench Vent sucked out all the fumes and I didn’t get a single whiff.
Marvellous night spraying, highly recommend these paints.
Thanks to JonMW and Matt for talking about them and making me think of trying what was sitting in front of me on my shelf :thumb2:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:01 pm
by DrSprue
Wow that Mr. Metal silver looks great Scott. Hmm I wonder if my LHS has started carrying that? He does get Tamiya stuff.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:23 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Stumbled over this video of the engine starting up in the Lotus shop....awesome views of the plumbing, just what I needed.
Cripes these things were loud!

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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:42 pm
by DrSprue
Whatt???? :lol:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:16 pm
by Tomcat64
Passing swiftly over the misfire with the white primer the finish on that Aluminium is stunning :th:

As for that Cosworth barking into life that brings back some memories.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:23 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:16 pm Passing swiftly over the misfire with the white primer the finish on that Aluminium is stunning :th:

As for that Cosworth barking into life that brings back some memories.
Yes, moving swiftly along.....
It is like I need a kick in the pants every build just to keep me honest.
I have Easy Off'd something on all my builds, save the Ferrari Daytona....but I am not done with that one yet :o

I swear everyone at Lotus must be stone cold deaf. I would have ear muffs on just to be near that beast.
They start that thing up inside the shop and I see no fire extinguisher or safety stuff around. I hope they have a good ventilation system.
In one of the videos, there is a guy is inside the tub...he would be toast if they had a fire as the car is suspended up on stands.
I love the videos though, GREAT references and I am watching them over and over

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:00 pm
by Tay99
Here you go Scott.
Had another look and you can just make out a pipe on the lotus.

These are pic from 1978. If you look closely you can just see the brake pipe coming out of the lower A arm.

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Hope this helps.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:48 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Excellent Tay, thanks :th:
I got some movement forward in the nose cone area for the brake system and battery today
I had to put the fireproof membrane down to cover the damn ejector pin marks I missed...and cause it looks cool

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Time is looming large for decanting the BRG rattle can paint for airbrushing

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:58 am
by Tay99
Great work Scott, glad the pics helped. I've just brought the AK book for civilian vehicles, there a piece I their about decanting paint I will dig it out for you, don't won't you re decorating the man cave. :lol:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:07 am
by Tomcat64
Beautiful work Scott - very clean and tidy :clap:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:33 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:07 am Beautiful work Scott - very clean and tidy :clap:
Thanks
A smarter man would have seen those ejector pins earlier and either filled them or glued the paper before the battery and wiring went in.
Clearly I am not that smarter man :tongue:
When I do make the black JPS, I am hoping to make a super clean and detailed build
This one is ok so far, but far from perfect :shifty:

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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:40 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Tay99 wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:58 am Great work Scott, glad the pics helped. I've just brought the AK book for civilian vehicles, there a piece I their about decanting paint I will dig it out for you, don't won't you re decorating the man cave. :lol:
I want that book as well, just a bit overspent at the moment
Paul did an awesome video on ISM about decanting and I watched Dr Cranky as well
Just have to manup and do it!!!

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:21 pm
by DrSprue
Beautiful work Scott - Just amazing really! :thumb2:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
DrSprue wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:21 pm Beautiful work Scott - Just amazing really! :thumb2:
Thanks Tony, looking forward to your Blackbird

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:44 pm
by DrSprue
Thanks alot bud, Seems it may be tuff even tho its all the same colors.
Hmm its all black plastic sprues, I got a bottle of black primer and Im gonna need to paint it all black.. I hope the lights in my garage is gonna be bright enuff to see all of this in the spring soon to make anything out!!! hahaha!

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:55 pm
by RossiM1
Hi Scott loving this build mate some fabulous details going in, just a thought, you mentioned you were waiting for MFH braided lines, I use guitar strings mate, look just like braided hose, in fact are more in scale with the braid, and are very much less expensive.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:24 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
RossiM1 wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:55 pm Hi Scott loving this build mate some fabulous details going in, just a thought, you mentioned you were waiting for MFH braided lines, I use guitar strings mate, look just like braided hose, in fact are more in scale with the braid, and are very much less expensive.
Good idea, have some somewhere I will have a look.
Have clear, braided and more hose joints on the way

Also getting ready to do this...
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I found a bendy straw on the dog walk this morning and much to my wife’s chagrin picked it up.
Sealing to the spray nozzle using Sugru silicone...a lady from the UK developed it I do believe
Wish me luck, at least I will be green for St Patrick’s day :mrgreen:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:54 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
OH the Humanity!!!!! What a mess!!!!

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:01 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Just joshing :shifty:
Freaking brilliant Paul :clap:
I followed the video to a T and got this

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Three smears on my glove taking out the straw....hey, what does two fingers up like that mean in The UK 🇬🇧 ??? ;)
I did just as Paul said....as much as you need and a bit more; didn’t even smell the spray paint; it comes out way slower than expected; nozzle and straw held firm and perfect.
I got some cling film and used the straw off cut as a vent chimney. Will let this sit for a day or two now.
:cheers2: to Paul for such a great video of doing something I was dreading.
I have a bit of a reputation in the family for being messy :oops: :(

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:28 am
by DrSprue
Hmm I wonder what they call it when you take the paint from the airbush and put it back into the rattle-can...... Un-canting?? :lol:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:00 am
by Twokidsnosleep
DrSprue wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:28 am Hmm I wonder what they call it when you take the paint from the airbush and put it back into the rattle-can...... Un-canting?? :lol:
Recanting...recant you heretic! Recant!!!
Oh maybe that is repaint :think:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:35 pm
by DrSprue
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:00 am
DrSprue wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:28 am Hmm I wonder what they call it when you take the paint from the airbush and put it back into the rattle-can...... Un-canting?? :lol:
Recanting...recant you heretic! Recant!!!
Oh maybe that is repaint :think:
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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:04 pm
by NorthernModeller
Love it mate :) keep up the awesome work as always :D

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:00 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
NorthernModeller wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:04 pm Love it mate :) keep up the awesome work as always :D
:cheers2: Ivan and thanks
Missed your presence on the live show, hope all is ok

I masked up the lower cockpit and sprayed some decanted BRGbTS-9
Unfortunately I did my normal 50:50 mix with levelling thinner so it is a super fine pigmented mist on there :wall:
After re-reading I see I could have used it straight up...will try that tonight time willing

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:58 am
by Twokidsnosleep
First layers of BRG have dried, so thought a test fit was in order....mostly for my own motivation
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I think once the decals start, it will really come alive. The second attempt with decanted TS-9 at full strength was way better.
I still await a two part clear order from Gravity so I can give her some shine :think:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 am
by bfrd
I sure do love BRG! Looks awesome! :thumb1:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:38 am
by Kevthemodeller
Looking good mate :th:

Only wish I had the opportunity to get at my bench of late, too much bloody work :pistols: :pistols: :wall:

Hopefully later today :th:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:50 am
by bfrd
Kevthemodeller wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:38 am Looking good mate :th:

Only wish I had the opportunity to get at my bench of late, too much bloody work :pistols: :pistols: :wall:

Hopefully later today :th:
Are you sure mate? You sound a little sniffely- perhaps a sick day (or two) is in order?

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:08 am
by Kevthemodeller
bfrd wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:50 am Are you sure mate? You sound a little sniffely- perhaps a sick day (or two) is in order?
If only it was that simple mate, I've got a residential type job while working can't pull sickies :doh:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:46 pm
by DrSprue
OK Scott I have one question...... will it start!! :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:38 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
DrSprue wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:46 pm OK Scott I have one question...... will it start!! :thumb2: :thumb2: :thumb2:
I am waiting on the Haynes Owners Manual for it.....so yes, after all wired up it will hopefully look like it could start

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:40 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
bfrd wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 am I sure do love BRG! Looks awesome! :thumb1:
YA it is nice. That has a clear green layer overtop as well but no shiny clear yet
We have a neighbour who has a hot little new Jaguar XF-Type convertible in BRG.
That thing looks FANTASTIC!!! :mrgreen:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:12 pm
by Tay99
Great job so far loving all the detail your putting in to this build, really starting to come together. :th:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:09 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Tay99 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:12 pm Great job so far loving all the detail your putting in to this build, really starting to come together. :th:
:cheers2: Tay
I am still learning about these cars and especially all the detail items available to a modeller now
There was nothing like that back when I was a kid....never saw PE before either

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:05 pm
by Kingdan
Lovin that colour Scott :th: :th: pops with the metal :pop: :pop: :pop: :pop: :pop:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:10 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Kingdan wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:05 pm Lovin that colour Scott :th: :th: pops with the metal :pop: :pop: :pop: :pop: :pop:
:cheers2: Danno, good to hear from you :thumb1:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:10 pm
by OlaHansson
Looks great :th:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
OlaHansson wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:10 pm Looks great :th:
tack så mycket
I had to look that up, hopefully it means "many thanks" and not something dirty :shifty:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 am
by DrSprue
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 pm
OlaHansson wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:10 pm Looks great :th:
tack så mycket
I had to look that up, hopefully it means "many thanks" and not something dirty :shifty:
Naa that would have been något smutsigt! :lol:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:38 am
by Twokidsnosleep
DrSprue wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:18 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 pm
OlaHansson wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:10 pm Looks great :th:
tack så mycket
I had to look that up, hopefully it means "many thanks" and not something dirty :shifty:
Naa that would have been något smutsigt! :lol:
Funny guy...get building that blackbird thing
It took me at least four clicks to find that meant slightly dirty

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:32 am
by OlaHansson
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 pm
OlaHansson wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:10 pm Looks great :th:
tack så mycket
I had to look that up, hopefully it means "many thanks" and not something dirty :shifty:
You are right, nothing dirty at all :D

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:30 am
by Tomcat64
The BRG Bodywork looks great mate! Looking forward to seeing it all decalled up :clap:

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:18 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Cheers everybody for looking and commenting.
I am pretty happy with the decanting technique if not the actual paint result...want that shiny clear Paul is getting.
Really need my four month old Gravity order to come through, but in reality either I cannot trust them or Canada Customs to deliver...actually I don’t think I trust either. So will have to find another avenue and kiss my $60 goodbye

Anyhow, got some work done on the steering wheel and dash
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Not perfect as the black is chipping through them to silver, but I like the effect. I was lucky to salvage the middle dial decal as it got pulled up when I tried to apply the metal bezel ring to the gauge...the sticky clear film stuff pulled the decal. I just cut it to shape and stuck it in like that.

The front suspension is all attached in now as well
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Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:09 pm
by DrSprue
Wow that dash and steering wheel looks amazing Scott. Hmm yup, I recently saw some guy talking about having major issues with Gravity as well. I watch too many utube vids so I dont remember who it was. I know it was an order problem as well.

Re: Lotus Type 79 Martini 1/20 Tamiya

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:03 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
DrSprue wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:09 pm Wow that dash and steering wheel looks amazing Scott. Hmm yup, I recently saw some guy talking about having major issues with Gravity as well. I watch too many utube vids so I dont remember who it was. I know it was an order problem as well.
I repainted the black and all the buttons...god I hate close up photos
I cannot unfog the middle dial as that is the thick clear plastic that glued to my decal. I have to live with it
I will watch that video soon, puppy dog calls with crossed legs that it is walk time :D